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admin
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2006 01:24 - Edited by: admin
I read a rumor posted under the Newspaper comes to Oilton thread. Two things - don't try to hijack a topic, start a new one. The second is - we don't deal in rumors. If you have something you want to post - then by all means post it. Back it up with some sort of truth - not just I heard a rumor. If you heard a rumor - great - I have heard at least 10 today, but that doesn't mean they bear repeating. Now - if you want to repost the comments you made, by starting a new thread, and re-wording it - by all means go to it. If all you are here to do is troll up some trouble, you will be banned. I have deleted your post - feel free to try again.
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PlainCharlie
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2006 17:02
Thank you administrators. The last thing I want to see here is a bunch of rumormongers, especially when they are trolling for something by dumbing themselves down with "rommers"
They need to get a life or stay off this board!!!
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admin
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2006 23:25
I never plan on being the "spelling police" - but sometimes you just have to wonder. My second grader can spell and punctuate better than that. I will not beat up somebody who makes a simple spelling or grammatical error - they happen. An internet message board will be full of them. If the poster wanted to carry on an intelligent conversation - it would be different. The person wanted to come here and post information to see if he could start controversy. Controversy can be good - as long as it is backed up with intelligent information, thought, and good intentions.
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simon
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2006 06:54
If the poster wanted to carry on an intelligent conversation - it would be different.
+1
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for the record publisher
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# Posted: 15 Oct 2006 20:05
sorry I missed what ever rumor got pulled. I am always interested in the insanity people will spout off without thought for whether it is true of not.
But this is one rumor that is true, sort of..... Yes I was arrested. No it was not with Kevin Peck. I dont even know him, I did meet him briefly as I was leaving Creek County Jail.
The truth is I was arrested on a 12 year old warrant that was suppose to have been recalled after I proved it was all a mistake. So let this be a warning to everyone, dont ever assume things are taken care of. Even with proof they sometimes come back to bite you in the ****.
It was a horrible night and I am literally still trying to get over the trauma, but I am going to be ok. But this warrant did not fall in someones lap. I have been stopped 3 times since this warrant was issued, I had an extensive background check ran before we were allowed to get our foreign exchange student, and back when I went through my divorce I was in and out of court for over a year, at Creek County. I guarantee that during the nasty divorce I went through if there had been a warrant on the computer my ex husbands attorney would have found it. In fact so would mine. Because he checked both our records looking for any surprises.
So please if you want to know what happened ask me. dont listen to rumors, I have already heard several, and so far none very closely match the truth. If you dont care what happened, then dont ad to the hysteria by repeating what you hear, unless its from me.
The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth is in my newspaper.
have a great week
suzy
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admin
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# Posted: 16 Oct 2006 07:03
This rumor had nothing to do with you Suzy.
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for the record publisher
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# Posted: 17 Oct 2006 17:43
I actually didnt figure it had to do with me. I am just human and so as a human I am nosy. 
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admin
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2006 09:54 - Edited by: admin
if there had been a warrant on the computer my ex husbands attorney would have found it
Suzy,
I think the problem here lies in the fact that most of these departments in the state are now going to a global computer system. Many of them just didn't have a way to communicate such things, and unless you were a murderer or rapist - the warrants fell through the cracks. What happened to you is definitely a bad deal, but it could have been worse. If the local PD had wanted to embarrass you - they would have served the warrant somewhere to draw attention to you - like a city council meeting, or chamber luncheon. I can guarantee they hated doing it too - but unfortunately, it is their jobs. Not a job I could do for sure.
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for the record publisher
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# Posted: 18 Oct 2006 18:30
Yes it could have been worse. But take my word for it, it was horrible. The sad thing is that it really could have been worse. But I know how it was and everyone that hasnt been there and says it could be worse really have no idea what they are talking about. Until you see and hear and experience what I did, you dont know. I had a man say today that he didnt think his wife would have survived it. And even he doesnt know it all. Because I wont tell.
And I will never doubt it was a set up deal. I had too many police officers, deputies, and jailers who asked who I mad mad. Who dug this up? even the assistant DA in Lincoln County was baffled. No one believes this just happened. This was pushed.
I have no doubt that Gary Carter didnt want to do it. That was obvious. He had his orders. So do I think it was the local PD? I dont know. I will just say that it seems fishy to me, and to an incredible amount of the people who are supporting me in this.
But regardless my biggest issue is that if it can happen to me, it can happen to other people too. I have had so many people come to me and say that it has made them really think about what they were doing 5-10-15 years ago. That is what I want.
And I want people to understand that what might seem like a cute little joke to put someone in their place, can be really serious. People can get hurt. My parents, Mark, the girls. People need to just think.
I am actually glad this all happened. I will say I wish it had happened a little differently. But now I know there was a warrant. Now I know there is nothing else out there. Now I know innocent people are in jail too. And now I know who my true friends are.
Hug your kids, they are what matters. And yours, like mine, are extra special.
Suzy
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admin
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# Posted: 19 Oct 2006 09:38
even the assistant DA in Lincoln County was baffled
From what I understand - the locals won't even pick you up on this type of warrant unless the issuing county, in this case Lincoln Co, says they want you picked up. I obviously don't know all of the facts here, but I know George H quite well - I also know he doesn't like to start things like this. I would be very surprised if this came from him. I won't even begin to say that I know what you went through, because I haven't been there. I hope I never am. (Thank god my wife intercepts the letters for all of my speeding and parking tkts and pays them.) The only thing I can say is look back and try to learn what you can from this.
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for the record publisher
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# Posted: 19 Oct 2006 18:23
actually I was arrested on a Creek County warrant. I guess when they got it they found the other. I am not sure what you think I assume George started. As far as I knew he and I were friends. As friends I would have appreciate a heads up. I have been assured by several law enforcement officers (not Oilton) that it is done all the time, just a call to say hey go take care of it or I will have to pick you up. Especially on something this old, and certainly since I am not a threat to the public.
But really I cant stress enough to anyone who might read this check your record. I am serious, if you ever had a ticket or a bounced check or anything else check your record. I cant stand the thought that this could happen to someone else.
I have learned from this, but maybe not the lesson I was suppose to learn. But a lesson none the less. But anyone sitting there thinking it cant happen to them is foolish. Until Monday night I would have thought the very same thing. I really would have.
You say your wife intercepts your speeding or parking tickets and pays them. But remember I thought this was taken care of too. This wasnt a situation that I ignored. I thought everything was taken care of years ago. So that is what I am saying, it could happen to anyone.
Nuff said.....
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ghensley
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# Posted: 19 Oct 2006 22:01
And I will never doubt it was a set up deal. I had too many police officers, deputies, and jailers who asked who I mad mad. Who dug this up? even the assistant DA in Lincoln County was baffled. No one believes this just happened. This was pushed.
I have no doubt that Gary Carter didnt want to do it. That was obvious. He had his orders. So do I think it was the local PD? I dont know. I will just say that it seems fishy to me, and to an incredible amount of the people who are supporting me in this.
As friends I would have appreciate a heads up. I have been assured by several law enforcement officers (not Oilton) that it is done all the time, just a call to say hey go take care of it or I will have to pick you up. Especially on something this old, and certainly since I am not a threat to the public.
Suzy,
Are you implying that I've done something wrong? If you think there's something "fishy" with me, let me know and we'll discuss it.
As to the heads up on the warrants, this does in fact happen but is the exception rather than the norm. Even then on this type charge, it's usually done before a warrant is even issued, not after. In other words the DA gives you ample opportunity to take care of it before a warrant is issued. In order to clear a warrant, it has to be recalled by the court and DA or it has to be served. This is the case even if you turn yourself in. You have to be processed (booked) in and out of jail. Also, we only give a heads up when the issuing agency tells us to do so and this was not the case this time from either Creek or Lincoln Counties.
I didn't think you were a flight risk or danger to the public and I didn't want get into a war of words with a newspaper editor but I also didn't want to stand in front of a judge or DA and explain why we didn't serve the warrant when told to do so.
I will say that if there was a "set up," or anything "dug up" or being "pushed," it was not done by me. We tried to make this arrest as painless as possible. We could have made this a high-profile arrest complete with impouding your vehicle, etc. if our intentions had been in the wrong place. I think you would agree this was not the case.
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for the record publisher
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# Posted: 20 Oct 2006 10:46
Actually I dont think you did anything wrong. I believe you did your job. I only said that I was told my several law enforcement officers that all you would have had to do was say go take care of this. Believe me I would have. I might have been held if I turned myself in, but not over night in a **** hole pod.
Creek County was all too willing to let me bond out, even without me being there yet. And I never even went to Lincoln County. My husband went there, they had to dig for a long time to even find it and then recalled the warrant and dropped the charges. So no it wouldnt have gone exactly the same had I turned myself in. which is what I would have one immediately, had I known there were warrants.
I also agree that normally you are given that time before the warrant is issued. But I am also standing by my statement that I believed it was taken care of years ago. Again not your fault, you are not the DA or the Judge.
I have also said that I was treated well by all police officers until such time as I was at creek county. Gary Carter did a wonderful job making me feel as safe and respected as he could. And I will never forget that. I am also pleased it was done like it was, without having to impound my car. And I told him that.
You are actually not my "suspect" as to who dug this up. But I dont believe a warrant this old just suddenly popped up as a high priority case. And especially since it was in my old name.
I am actually glad it all happened. I know exactly where I stand now. I have no rose colored glasses on. I am putting it behind me, if people will let me, and moving on.
Oddly enough my biggest beef isnt with who dug this up, they actually did me a favor. Or with how it was or wasnt handled. My biggest issues are with the way things are handled at Creek County, mostly at the jail.
If my humiliation will keep this from happening to one other person it is worth the embarrassment. It is worth possibly making a few people mad. It's worth whatever it takes.
I would hope that you as a police chief and any local officers would read the way I was treated and realise that some times people really are innocent. Or even if they are guilty they are still human.
Thats why I said I was treated well by both Oilton and Drumright. And even the deputy.
My beef is with the jail. The person who got this ball rolling cant touch me anymore. And they certainly havent stood up and bragged about it that I have heard. So what thrill did they get?
But do I think it was you? no. I might be wrong but I dont think you did this.
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ghensley
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# Posted: 20 Oct 2006 13:46
Suzy,
Putting this behind you is the best thing you can do. I'll say this and then let you move on. In regards to your treatment at the jail, if anyone is ever jailed erroneously, it's unfortunate and I hope is not a result of a mistake made by Oilton PD. Still yet, jail was never meant to be Club Med and is the last place I'd want to be even if I received 4-Star treatment while there. But I also imagine your perspective of reporting people going to jail is different than mine of putting people there.
I also don't know how, why or who caused these warrants to appear but it certainly wasn't high priority on our end. We treated it like most any warrant, in that we confirm that they're valid and that the agency will extradite. There are a good number of folks walking the streets that have outstanding warrants but the agencies won't extradite them. Unfortunately that's not what happened in your case and the offer to have you come take care of it was not an option ever given to us by either county.
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for the record publisher
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# Posted: 20 Oct 2006 14:43
how about we agree to disagree or something like that? I certainly hold no grudge. You were as I said already, doing your job.
I certainly understand doing things in the context of your job that you might not enjoy doing. I have to report things all the time that I would rather not. But that is our jobs.
I seriously am trying to move on. I keep getting calls and letters that dont let me, but I am seriously trying to move past it. Mostly in support of me, but regardless they bring it back up.
And whether you had anything to do with it or not, your name comes up alot. Like I said before I suspect if this was dug up that it came from someone else. As far as I know you had no reason to go after me, but I know others who do.
I mean if I were not the publisher of a newspaper no one would care if I bounced a check a decade ago, regardless of if it is my mistake or the banks. hopefully this will soon blow over.
Did you ever imagine we would even be having this conversation? I sure didnt. Sure makes me glad I am not a police officer. I couldnt handle sending people to that place. well maybe some people.
Again I am really bored with the whole topic. and I still have to address it in my editorial, I pray one last time.
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admin
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2006 09:47
I seriously am trying to move on. I keep getting calls and letters that dont let me, but I am seriously trying to move past it. Mostly in support of me, but regardless they bring it back up.
I the spirit of moving on - this thread is now locked.
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